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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Rachel Blau DuPlessis has
told me, on more than one <span class="GramE">occasion, that</span> no writer of
long poems before me apparently commented in any particular detail on the
process of starting or constructing such a work. But DuPlessis has herself done
so, at least partly (&amp; to some degree indirectly), in an essay entitled
&#8220;Haibun: &#8216;Draw Your Draft,&#8217;&#8221; in <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><a href="http://www.uiowa.edu/uiowapress/holhdand.htm">H.D. and Poets After</a></i>,
edited by </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Don</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">a <span class="SpellE">Krolik</span> <span class="SpellE">Hollenberg</span>. It&#8217;s an interesting volume overall with poets
Alicia <span class="SpellE">Ostriker</span>, </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Robert Kelly</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">, Sharon <span class="SpellE">Doubiago</span>, Frances <span class="SpellE">Jaffer</span>, Kathleen Fraser, Brenda Hillman, Leslie Scalapino, <span class="SpellE">Nate</span> Mackey &amp; Carolyn <span class="SpellE">Forché</span>
in addition to DuPlessis writing on their relationship to Hilda Doolittle, each
in turn followed by a second essay by a scholar on the same topic &#8211; Burt <span class="SpellE">Hatlen</span> contributes the companion to DuPlessis&#8217; essay.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">A sample passage:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">No
plan, no design, no schemata. Just a few procedures: placing works on the big
stage of the page, making each <span class="GramE">be</span> itself intact and
autonomous but connected to themselves as they emerged. No continuous
narrative. No myth as explanation. Here <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Drafts</i>
are very different from H.D.&#8217;s long poems and quite related to Objectivist
ethos and poetics. The works are influenced by Objectivist argument and
propositions about reality. That the image is encountered, not found, as Oppen
proposed. That <span class="GramE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">the</i>
and</span> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">a </i>(said Zukofsky testily)
are words worth investigating, as suggestive and as staggering in their
implications as any epic or myth.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Even though DuPlessis ranges
far beyond just her relationship to H.D., there is no single summation here &#8211;
indeed, DuPlessis warns in an end note, that this account is far from
comprehensive, citing a wide range of other sources &amp; influences as diverse
as Rae Armantrout &amp; Clayton Eshleman.* In an unnumbered note, DuPlessis
comments that &#8220;I also follow the &#8216;hermetic&#8217; encoding in H.D. that involves
having an H and a D in titles that consider her.&#8221; Thus, &#8220;Draft 12: Haibun.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">The conjunction of these
factors &#8211; the charged, but non-exclusive discourse with modernism, the concern
with the letter, brought up something very different to mind, a poem,
specifically this:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">There is more here than memory.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Reading
</span></span><st1:city><st1:place><span class="GramE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Paterson</span></i></span></st1:place></st1:city><span class="GramE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> </span></i><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">on the bus, back &amp; forth.</span></span><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> <span class="GramE">Across the city.</span> <span class="GramE">The 210.</span> <span class="GramE">A man &amp; a city.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I am not a man &amp; this is
not my city.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Williams
though as a guide.</span></span><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> <span class="GramE">His universals as particulars,
ideas in things.</span> <span class="GramE">His rhythms.</span> Every rhythmic
shaking (like a belly dancer), splashing (like the <span class="GramE">Falls</span>)
lines. <span class="GramE">Insistences.</span> Insistence on persisting. . . . <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Stuck <span class="SpellE">stuck</span>
<span class="SpellE">stuck</span> the W &#8211; a poem in the new <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Sulfur </i>began with a quote from Bréton that the surrealists opposed
the W to the V of the visible &#8211;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">The W atop Woodward&#8217;s &#8211; the
big, brick, block-long (almost &#8211; next building west was Woolworth&#8217;s &#8211; another W
(west a W, was a W)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">These excerpts come from the
very first section of George Stanley&#8217;s <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><a href="http://www.ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2002_12_01_ronsilliman_archive.html%2385889670">Vancouver,</a></i>
which I found at the very end of his most recent book, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><a href="http://www.newstarbooks.com/Booksinprint.htm#poetry">At Andy&#8217;s</a></i>,
an echo of how the first of DuPlessis&#8217; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Drafts</i>
appeared at the back of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Tabula Rosa</i>
(Potes &amp; Poets, 1987). I&#8217;ve compared </span><st1:city><st1:place><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Vancouver</span></i></st1:place></st1:city><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span></i><span style="font-family: Arial;">&amp; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Drafts </i><a href="http://www.ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2002_12_01_ronsilliman_archive.html%2386102935">before</a>,
but these additional layers of correspondence amaze me. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">At a
certain point in this exploration of the <span class="SpellE">rhetorics</span> of
&#8220;drafting&#8221; I realized that I was constructing a texture of déjà vu, a set of
works that mimicked the productions and losses of memory. And that the works
were my own response both to the memorializing function of poetry and to my own
bad memory. &#8220;An exploration of the chaos of memory (obscured, alienated, or
reduced to a range of natural references) cannot be done in the &#8216;clarity&#8217; of a
linear narrative&#8221;** . . . . <span class="GramE">Bad memory.</span> <span class="GramE">Bad dog.</span> <span class="GramE">Bad <span class="SpellE">bad</span>
memory.</span> The poem replicates (but neither reconstructs nor represents) a
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Part of what amazes me in
these convergences is that if I were to construct a scale of the poets who had
some relation to the journals <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Caterpillar
</i>&amp; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Sulfur</i>, edited by Clayton
Eshleman, according to the degree of Jack Spicer&#8217;s influence perceptible in their
<span class="GramE">poetry,</span> Stanley &amp; DuPlessis would almost be the
opposite extremes. Yet here are two projects that are, if not parallel, at
least so filled with resonances back &amp; forth, that each poem works in part
to illuminate the other. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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